Quote from: EDekar on Apr 27, 2025, 01:56 PMThat or a Shadow. Heavens know my wife sees those on occasion. Ends up saging the whole apartment after getting spooked. Every once in a while she'll ask me 'Dekar, did you walk by here a minute ago?' to which I'll tell her 'No, I was in the computer room.'. Then she'll shiver, I'll ask her if it was a Shadow again, and so the incense gets whipped out haha.
I have to admit I miss dreaming. It was fun asserting lucidity in nightmares! 'You're in my realm now, <redacted>!' /cackle
heh, yeah, it could have been a shadow or imagination.
I've been having more experiences, some have helped me isolate some key rules.
I've been able to isolate and test differences in dream types.
legit dreams are typically based upon real life premises, questions I even so much as had as a passing thought, things I've seen, so on and so forth. such dreams likely wont have much order, characters in such dreams will not reply if I cannot think up a response. not all senses if any will work in these dreams beyond basic unclear sight, voices of people are merely imagined thoughts in my head coming to the front for processing like an internal voice during thought processes.. When having these dreams either both my palms are not touching the bed, or there is no 'energy' venting from my palms when I start to relax, or the energy output is disrupted due to waking myself up again or moving my arms or pose. entering such a dream is no more so than the difference of minimizing one window and maximizing another then focusing on it.
then theres the second type.. which is the opposite in all regards, things I see in these are not based on anything I had experienced while awake, nor on my own thoughts, characters can respond in ways I would not expect, and hold actual conversations with me. all senses work in these dreams. before having these dreams typically both my palms default to touching the bed and as I relax my mind it's like a energy begins to be released from my elbows to my palms kinda like a sensation of letting out sparkly clouds or gas of some sort. upon entering such a dream after testiing by suddenly ejecting myself, I found there was mental motion, as in my mind was moved to and from some point over a given 'random' vector, however, I also tested prematurly openning my dream eyes and trying to bring myself to focus, doing so stopped stopped the mental motion leaving me stranded at some intermediary point (I was inside some sort of wall like structure and there was not enough space for me so upon trying to engage touch senses there was pressure on me where the wall intersected my body and immersion was canceled and I was ejected out of the dream and my mind moved back to here).
that's what it's like. my mind actually feels like it's in motion speeding off somewhere. and I have no idea what the energy I release is, only that it's invisible and not anything to do with bloodpressure as there's no beating sensation, it seems to be a legit energy as when I put my fingertips of opposite hands together I can feel it cycle hand to hand.
also while in this state my real body seems to be completely out of contact, I have to reach out to it and zip back.. I rarely have been observant enough to recognise the mental movement, I noted it before but now I'm starting to understand it happens both ways (away and back) every time, away at the start (I usually am unaware of it), and back again at the end.
further more, there was something else I was going to note but can't remember; ah yes memories, or rather separate memories, some dreams like this cannot be remembered because it's like my mind has to trade memory stores in order to wake up, if I have enough time after waking I have to essentially reach out with my mind and download copies of memories from the "dream memory cache" into the "awake memory cache" sometimes this is unsuccessful, and is only possible by attempting to initiate the general feeling of the atmosphere of the dream which triggers me to fly off back to that place in mind, where I kinda have to set a subconscious recording state here in reality, go in grab the info and rush back, but if in my absence my brain stopped recording then the memories fail to return with me, it's like they hit a wall and get stripped off me like plastic wrap off of a plate of food, as my mind continues the rest of the journey back. sometimes consciously verbally asking for info on it outloud results in the memories of a record of the dream materializing in my mind. sometimes discussing that I can't remember some part causes that part to come to me. sometimes only while typing about it can the memory be retrieved.
the fact of the mental motion is starting to make me think theres something a little more to the second dream type. especially combined with my former report of my hand hitting the corner of the file cabinet but in reality did not move.
sometimes while awake now I find in certain situations where I'm lost in thought and really feel drawn to put out my hand towards someone to touch them on the shoulder in example or something, it's the same feeling, my hand goes out and touches them but my real hand doesn't move and the second I realize this fact the sensation of my mental arm touching them can't be felt, no more so than the lingering feeling of the atmosphere of the instance. I do see reactions (they suddenly shift focus and look at everyone around them), but I don't have the guts to ask "hey did you feel a hand on your shoulder a few moments ago?" because then I'd have to expain myself. talking about it here has some anonymity.
there are some other instances I am now remembering.. where while awake I was overtaken by a compulsory daydream which immediately became vivid and lucid.. I wrote about that on another forum and am now just seeing some relevance.
until I get solid confirmation I'll still be largely mentally skeptic. I mean just because I tap someone on the shoulder with a sub-conscious mental arm and they happen to look up and glance around doesn't mean they really felt it does it? it could just be chance.
oh well, just adding in some report of new info. now to see which of the 2 types of dreams I'm off to tonight.
