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Title: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: Generator on December 22, 2022, 08:25:56 am

Hey there,

So as the subject says, this is the build I've put together for my Ice Melee/Willpower Scrapper.  I played this same guy as a Tanker back on Live and he was a ton of fun.

In the course of rebuilding him, I figured I might try and kind of lean into the "trained in the ancient art of the Frozen Path" aspect of his backstory, so I jammed in all the Winter sets I could get my hands on.  The net result has him with stupid high Fire/Cold defense.  On one hand, yeah it feels excessive.  But, I also feel okay with it to a certain extent.  The idea of "attacking me with fire or ice is just plain dumb" kind of works for this guy, so I'm okay with letting that stand.

That said, if anyone has any feedback on ways to tweak him a little, I'm all ears.

Later on,
Generator

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Snowbrawl: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Ice Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Martial Prowess

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Fists

• (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  
• (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  
• (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (7) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  

Level 1: High Pain Tolerance

• (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  
• (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (9) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  
• (9) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  
• (9) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  

Level 2: Ice Sword

• (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (11) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime
  
• (11) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  
• (13) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (13) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (13) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  

Level 4: Super Jump

• (A) Superior Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  
• (17) Superior Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (25%)
  

Level 6: Mind Over Body

• (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (19) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
  
• (19) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (50) Aegis - Resistance
  
• (50) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
  

Level 8: Frost

• (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (21) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
  
• (21) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (23) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (23) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  
• (23) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize
  

Level 10: Indomitable Will

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  
• (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 12: Greater Ice Sword

• (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (27) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  
• (29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  

Level 14: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  
• (31) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  
• (33) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
  

Level 16: Rise to the Challenge

• (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
  
• (33) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  
• (33) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  
• (34) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  
• (34) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  

Level 18: Fast Healing

• (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
  
• (36) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  

Level 20: Quick Recovery

• (A) Endurance Modification IO
  
• (36) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  
• (36) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  

Level 22: Ice Patch

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 24: Boxing

• (A) Empty
  

Level 26: Freezing Touch

• (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (37) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  
• (37) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (37) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (39) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  
• (39) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold
  

Level 28: Heightened Senses

• (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  
• (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  
• (40) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  
• (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (40) Red Fortune - Defense
  
• (42) Red Fortune - Endurance
  

Level 30: Tough

• (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  
• (42) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  
• (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  

Level 32: Frozen Aura

• (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (43) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
  
• (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (45) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  

Level 35: Weave

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  
• (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 38: Warrior's Mark

• (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
  
• (46) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (48) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (48) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (48) Analyze Weakness - Chance for +ToHit
  

Level 41: Build Up

• (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  
• (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  

Level 44: Confront

• (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
  

Level 47: Resurgence

• (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
  

Level 49: Strength of Will

• (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  

Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Swift

• (A) Run Speed IO
  

Level 2: Hurdle

• (A) Jumping IO
  

Level 2: Health

• (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
  
• (15) Miracle - +Recovery
  
• (15) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  

Level 2: Stamina

• (A) Endurance Modification IO
  
• (17) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  
• (17) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  

Level 1: Disintegrating
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Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: wyldhaunt on December 22, 2022, 09:25:28 am

Hi Generator, this is an ice-solid build! I'm sure others could show much more proc-fu with this, so I'm going to leave that reply to them ;) . My only suggestions, given your very-thematic build goals and results, is:

• You're overslotted for ToHit/Accuracy, so you could at least shave the LotG: Def/End/Rech from indomitable Will for some other use.
• Consider a little Halloween: 4-slot Superior Witchcraft (%-Res, Acc/Debuff, Acc/End/Rech, Debuff/End/Rech) in Warrior's Mark, and swap out Mako's Bite for Superior Vampire's Bite. At the very least, get the Superior Vampire's Bite %Heal proc going somewhere.

I noticed you don't have Incarnate powers listed. I suggest:

• Alpha: Musculature Radial, for Damage, Endurance Modification, and ToHit Debuff
• Destiny: Rebirth Core Epiphany, for more MaxHP (which will help you Regen even more), and Heal. Once you have your +15% HP from Accolades, using Rebirth Core will allow you to hit the Scrapper HP cap.
• Lore: Polar Lights, because they're mega AoE damage and they're very thematic for your Ice.
• Interface: Paralytic Core Flawless. While you could go the standard Reactive (extra Fire DoT which isn't very icy) or Degenerative (MaxHP Debuff which enemies won't stand long enough to matter), you might benefit more from Paralytic's -Def.
• Judgement: Cryonic Core Final, because Ice theme!
• Hybrid: Assault Core, for Damage.

Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: Generator on December 22, 2022, 01:22:45 pm

Well thanks a ton for the feedback!

FWIW, I don't tend to play The Proc Game with my IOs/Sets, I'll be happy with just using sets.  Let's see if I can walk through some of your feedback here...

Hmmm, I'm certainly not opposed to moving a lot out of Indomitable Will, because you're right, the difference that makes to my overall build is marginal.  The catch is, I don't really see anyplace that can use the slot better than that!  I'll keep an eye on places I could move one slot.

I hadn't really given Witchcraft too much consideration, just because we're past the Halloween event.  But I've still got some salvage left over; let me see if I can put together a few pieces of that set, because my goodness, that does look nice!  As far as Vampire's Bite, is it just that the proc carries a lot of water?  I'll consider that one if I can afford it after Witchcraft.

Those are all pretty solid choices for Incarnate abilities.
Alpha: Agree 100% but I'd toyed with Agility too, mainly for the EndMod/DefBuff/Rchg (but I don't think Recharge helps WP as much as other chars)
Destiny: Hadn't considered it too deeply but this sounds solid.
Lore: I was likely going here even if it wasn't a good pick but it sounds like it is!  :)  Should I get the two Blasters, or one and Support?  (I personally never feel like those do enough)
Interface: I rarely do Reactive, because it's my experience that eeeeeveryone uses it, and the stack limits are so low that it'd just be wasted.  Paralytic is an interesting choice, I was considering that or Gravitic.
Judgment: Spot on!  :D  Again, any thoughts on Core vs Radial, or does it even matter?
Hybrid: Assault is my go-to so no big surprise there.

Thanks so much for the feedback!  You or anyone else gets any ideas, I'm all ears!

Later on,
Generator

Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: wyldhaunt on December 22, 2022, 01:50:05 pm

Quote from: Generator on December 22, 2022, 01:22:45 pm

As far as Vampire's Bite, is it just that the proc carries a lot of water?  I'll consider that one if I can afford it after Witchcraft.

The proc is the important one, however you might want to review the rest of the set for its bonuses just in case they offer something. too.

Quote from: Generator on December 22, 2022, 01:22:45 pm

Lore: I was likely going here even if it wasn't a good pick but it sounds like it is!  :)  Should I get the two Blasters, or one and Support?  (I personally never feel like those do enough)

I tend to go core on all Lores and haven't really evaluated radial's support option versus core's all-damage for Scrappers. I do know that Polar Lights Core is my usual Lore because of the AoE damage and that the models are small so that I can actually see around them (contrasted to Banished Pantheon's, Rularuu's, others' frikkin' huge models).

Quote from: Generator on December 22, 2022, 01:22:45 pm

Judgment: Spot on!  :D  Again, any thoughts on Core vs Radial, or does it even matter?

I'm always about the damage on Judgement, so I've never tried the radials.

Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: Redlynne on December 22, 2022, 05:39:02 pm

Mako's Bite (https://wiki.cityofheroesrebirth.com/wiki/Mako%27s_Bite) set bonuses.

• 2-slot increases Toxic and Psionic Resistance by 1.5% and increases Mez Resistance by 2.5%.
• 3-slot increases maximum Health by 1.5%.
• 4-slot improves the Damage of all your powers by 3%.
• 5-slot increases Lethal and Smashing Resistance by 3.75% and increases Mez Resistance by 6.25%.
• 6-slot increases Ranged Defense by 3.75% and increases Energy and Negative Energy Defense by 1.875%.

Superior Vampire's Bite (https://wiki.cityofheroesrebirth.com/wiki/Superior_Vampire%27s_Bite) set bonuses.

• 2-slot increases Energy and Negative Energy Resistance by 6% and increases Mez Resistance by 10%.
• 3-slot increases maximum Health by 3%.
• 4-slot increases maximum Endurance by 3.6%.
• 5-slot improves your Regeneration by 16%.
• 6-slot improves the Recharge of all your powers by 10%.

Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: Generator on December 23, 2022, 03:04:10 am

Redlynne, I'm almost certain the set bonuses you list for Mako's are the ones for the non-Superior Vampire's Bite. 😁 But if your point is that VB's set bonuses are more worthwhile that MB's then I could probably buy into that.

Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: Redlynne on December 23, 2022, 08:11:58 am

Quote from: Generator on December 23, 2022, 03:04:10 am

Redlynne, I'm almost certain the set bonuses you list for Mako's are the ones for the non-Superior Vampire's Bite. 😁 But if your point is that VB's set bonuses are more worthwhile that MB's then I could probably buy into that.

Your're right. Oops.

Fixed.

Title: Re: Snowbrawl, Ice/WP
Post by: Generator on December 23, 2022, 10:35:09 am

Quote from: Redlynne on December 22, 2022, 05:39:02 pm

Mako's Bite (https://wiki.cityofheroesrebirth.com/wiki/Mako%27s_Bite) set bonuses.

• 2-slot increases Toxic and Psionic Resistance by 1.5% and increases Mez Resistance by 2.5%.
• 3-slot increases maximum Health by 1.5%.
• 4-slot improves the Damage of all your powers by 3%.
• 5-slot increases Lethal and Smashing Resistance by 3.75% and increases Mez Resistance by 6.25%.
• 6-slot increases Ranged Defense by 3.75% and increases Energy and Negative Energy Defense by 1.875%.

Vampire's Bite (https://wiki.cityofheroesrebirth.com/wiki/Vampire%27s_Bite) set bonuses.

• 2-slot increases Energy and Negative Energy Resistance by 4.5% and increases Mez Resistance by 7.5%.
• 3-slot increases maximum Health by 1.88%.
• 4-slot increases maximum Endurance by 2.7%.
• 5-slot improves your Regeneration by 10%.
• 6-slot improves the Recharge of all your powers by 6.25%.

Putting up the numbers for regular VB, for a more apples-to-apples comparison.