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General Suggestions and Feedback / Re: What should be our vision for the wiki and the obsolete user data?

« on: May 14, 2021, 03:35:56 pm »

That's been the response I've been getting on discord too. Just for clarification these are definitely personal pages, actually listed as "user", but the user doesn't exist on the new wiki.

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(Almost Tested) Bug Reporting / Economy revamp review

« on: May 14, 2021, 02:16:49 am »

So I've been going over the proposed economy changes based on the sheet Bee posted. I can tell there's been a lot of work and number crunching done on this already (honestly I'm quite impressed) assuming much of this has been reviewed gone over "behind the closed doors" but I want to go over this a bit. I'm only going to focus on the reward and alignment merits, not the incarnate stuff, since I'm more familiar with them.

One thing to note first is the formula for the original awards which according to the wiki is: Task Forces give an average of 1 merit every 3 minutes of average time (20 merits an hour), Trials give an average of 1 merit every 2.5 minutes (24 merits an hour), and Story Arcs give an average of 1 merit every 7.5 minutes (8 merits an hour).

With the current ratio using purps (what most people want), an alignment merit will be worth about 50 reward merits (400 / 8 = 50). That means a task force earns an "alignment merit" every 150 minutes, or 2.5 hours. I estimate a decent tips team will complete a full alignment + morality run in about 3 hours so this is in a good place as it means the equivalent of an average of 1 merit every 4 minutes (15 merits per hour).

These numbers are good, it means a person jumping in to do a single TF or tips run per night will get a purple about once per week which I think is good. That means even someone playing super casually who only does this twice a week will still get a purple per month even without paragon rewards.

Which bring me to my biggest question with this all this is... why are we keeping alignment merits? The only reasons for having multiple currencies in a video game is to have special items that can only be purchased by one of the currencies but not the other. This is the reason for alignment merits in the first place back on live. You *had* to grind alignment merits to get purps as you could not spend regular merits for them. However with this proposed change that is no longer the case. The same items that can be bought with alignment merits can be bought for reward merits. There's even a consistent conversion between the 2 currencies. Keeping the currencies split doesn't really do anything besides encourage people to use the more efficient of the 2, in this case the reward merits, since you can obtain them faster and you never lose them if you change alignment.

My proposal now is to eliminate all alignment merits and when a player confirms their alignment, whether hero, vig, rog, or vil they get 50 reward merits. That puts keeps the reward equivalent in reward merits as what is proposed in alignment merits. It also takes out what is now an obsolete and irrelevant currency that isn't quite as good as the current reward merits are.

Edit: This is assuming rewards remain as posted. If something is changed so that certain items can only be purchased via alignment merits that are not available from reward merits then there becomes a reason to keep alignment merits.

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General Suggestions and Feedback / What should be our vision for the wiki and the obsolete user data?

« on: May 13, 2021, 04:04:58 pm »

Not certain where to put this, but "suggestion" is the closest I can think of so it's here. Basically I think we need a discussion about the wiki and our vision for the future with it. I've been going through the "links without pages" list, finding entries missing from our wiki that are on paragon wiki and then copying them over. While tedious I think it's worth it to have our wiki be complete and accurate with all the various missions that didn't initially migrate over for some reason. However I've started reaching links to players old characters from their user pages, mostly on ouroportal, that are missing.

While I do want the rebirth wiki to be complete and accurate, I don't think we need it to be a complete historical snapshot of what the game was like during sunset. My vision for the wiki is for it to be completely new, focusing on how the Rebirth server is now, and just using the old paragon wiki articles as a starting point. For this reason I really think all these old user pages should simply be purged from the wiki instead of trying update/include the missing data their pages are linking to. I do not have permission to completely delete an article, and even if I did I do not think that is an action one person like myself should take without consulting with the rest of the community and the mods.

So what does everyone else think we should do with these old user pages?

Also, I think having a "wiki" section of the forums would be a good idea too so people can suggest and discuss the wiki in general rather then taking over specific talk pages within it.

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AE/Mission Architect / Donkyhotay's AE missions

« on: May 11, 2021, 03:32:58 am »

Here is a list of my AE arcs if anyone is interested.


Name: The Many Lives of Lord Recluse
arcID: 774
Length: 5 missions
Level: 40-54
Description: Portal Corp has learned that 5 alternate versions of Lord Recluse from parallel dimensions are planning to invade Primal Earth. We need you to stop them before they do. Despite the warning there are no *mandatory* fights with any EB's, AV's, or GM's.


Name: Shining Stars: The Search for Dillo
arcID: 797
Length: 2 missions
Level: 35-54
Description: Dillo from the Shining Stars has been replaced by a Nemesis automaton! Find out what happened as you track him down and rescue him. This mission assumes your character is a hero that has completed all of the Shining Stars arcs.